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		<title>By: Southern Fried Chicas &#187; I See Jumpy Peoplez</title>
		<link>http://carriev.wordpress.com/2008/06/14/in-which-i-play-script-doctor-for-the-hulk/#comment-2496</link>
		<dc:creator>Southern Fried Chicas &#187; I See Jumpy Peoplez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Even with such a cheesy plot/explanation this could have been a really great movie (if Whalberg&#8217;s wife had really cheated, then been in danger and he had to decide to save her&#8230;or not&#8211;yeah! If the event had spread further than the NE Seaboard and Whalberg had to help stop it? Yeah&#8230;cuz you know all HS Science Teachers are secretly Nobel Prize winners. If they had actually gone to save John Leguizamo and his wife&#8230;..sure. Id&#8217;a bought it&#8211;maybe. Sadly it fell far short in character AND external conflict. I almost wish I&#8217;d wasted my money on The Hulk. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Even with such a cheesy plot/explanation this could have been a really great movie (if Whalberg&#8217;s wife had really cheated, then been in danger and he had to decide to save her&#8230;or not&#8211;yeah! If the event had spread further than the NE Seaboard and Whalberg had to help stop it? Yeah&#8230;cuz you know all HS Science Teachers are secretly Nobel Prize winners. If they had actually gone to save John Leguizamo and his wife&#8230;..sure. Id&#8217;a bought it&#8211;maybe. Sadly it fell far short in character AND external conflict. I almost wish I&#8217;d wasted my money on The Hulk. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://carriev.wordpress.com/2008/06/14/in-which-i-play-script-doctor-for-the-hulk/#comment-2450</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you add a scene where Blonsky shaves? (sorry, my inner military brat showing)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you add a scene where Blonsky shaves? (sorry, my inner military brat showing)</p>
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		<title>By: carriev</title>
		<link>http://carriev.wordpress.com/2008/06/14/in-which-i-play-script-doctor-for-the-hulk/#comment-2449</link>
		<dc:creator>carriev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really heart Sam Elliott...

Those two points are exactly what I was trying to address with my little dialog fixes.  I recently heard a phrase in a writing workshop:  &quot;Hang a lantern on it.&quot;  Which means, the info is there, but not highlighted.  Point it out to the reader/audience.  In movies, the only way to do that is with imagery or dialog, and The Incredible Hulk utilized neither.

Lee&#039;s Hulk:  Here&#039;s my fix:  Daddy Bruce goes into the Gamma Ray machine, intending to become Absorbing Man.  It fails (the whole point was Bruce&#039;s genetic makeup allowed him to survive!).  Intercut the picture of the frog exploding from early in the movie.  He&#039;s dead.  The film ends with the Hulk falling from the plane, Betty being told he&#039;s dead, and then Bruce walking the earth like Kane from Kung Fu...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really heart Sam Elliott&#8230;</p>
<p>Those two points are exactly what I was trying to address with my little dialog fixes.  I recently heard a phrase in a writing workshop:  &#8220;Hang a lantern on it.&#8221;  Which means, the info is there, but not highlighted.  Point it out to the reader/audience.  In movies, the only way to do that is with imagery or dialog, and The Incredible Hulk utilized neither.</p>
<p>Lee&#8217;s Hulk:  Here&#8217;s my fix:  Daddy Bruce goes into the Gamma Ray machine, intending to become Absorbing Man.  It fails (the whole point was Bruce&#8217;s genetic makeup allowed him to survive!).  Intercut the picture of the frog exploding from early in the movie.  He&#8217;s dead.  The film ends with the Hulk falling from the plane, Betty being told he&#8217;s dead, and then Bruce walking the earth like Kane from Kung Fu&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 00:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Absorbing Man scene in the first &lt;i&gt;Hulk&lt;/i&gt; always made sense to me: dad wants to absorb Bruce&#039;s power/energy, only to find it too much for him to handle.

The problem I had with this new &lt;i&gt;Hulk&lt;/i&gt; is that virtually none of the major character decisions came out of...well, character.  Instead, it feels all too obvious the characters do what they do because the script requires it, especially near the end.  Why does Blonsky want to go the extra mile near the end to become the Abomination?  It&#039;s In The Script.  Why does Banner suddenly decide, with little difficulty, to Hulk out one last time?  IITS.

I also just missed Sam Elliott as General Ross.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Absorbing Man scene in the first <i>Hulk</i> always made sense to me: dad wants to absorb Bruce&#8217;s power/energy, only to find it too much for him to handle.</p>
<p>The problem I had with this new <i>Hulk</i> is that virtually none of the major character decisions came out of&#8230;well, character.  Instead, it feels all too obvious the characters do what they do because the script requires it, especially near the end.  Why does Blonsky want to go the extra mile near the end to become the Abomination?  It&#8217;s In The Script.  Why does Banner suddenly decide, with little difficulty, to Hulk out one last time?  IITS.</p>
<p>I also just missed Sam Elliott as General Ross.</p>
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		<title>By: carriev</title>
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		<dc:creator>carriev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;ve noticed this trend:  it seems like when editors/directors have a choice between &quot;character development&quot; and &quot;repetitive action&quot;, they always cut character development in favor of repetitive action.

If you cut out the goo monster in Ang Lee&#039;s Hulk, it&#039;s a fabulous movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ve noticed this trend:  it seems like when editors/directors have a choice between &#8220;character development&#8221; and &#8220;repetitive action&#8221;, they always cut character development in favor of repetitive action.</p>
<p>If you cut out the goo monster in Ang Lee&#8217;s Hulk, it&#8217;s a fabulous movie.</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t seen the film yet, but given the rumored script problems on this particular project, I wonder how many of your problems with the script are the result of excessive trimming on the final cut.

There&#039;s apparently 70-odd minutes missing from this cut of the film.  Cut, apparently, to enhance the &quot;HULK SMASH!&quot; vibe, and diminish the &quot;Banner talky-talky blah blah&quot; feel, which is what the powers that be seems to think was the problem with Ang Lee&#039;s Hulk, and not the &quot;Hulk fights an amorphous, poorly lit CG blur for the last fifteen minutes&quot; issue.

I imagine that the inevitable extended, Director&#039;s Cut DVD might solve a couple of the issues you raise.

Here&#039;s to hoping, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t seen the film yet, but given the rumored script problems on this particular project, I wonder how many of your problems with the script are the result of excessive trimming on the final cut.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s apparently 70-odd minutes missing from this cut of the film.  Cut, apparently, to enhance the &#8220;HULK SMASH!&#8221; vibe, and diminish the &#8220;Banner talky-talky blah blah&#8221; feel, which is what the powers that be seems to think was the problem with Ang Lee&#8217;s Hulk, and not the &#8220;Hulk fights an amorphous, poorly lit CG blur for the last fifteen minutes&#8221; issue.</p>
<p>I imagine that the inevitable extended, Director&#8217;s Cut DVD might solve a couple of the issues you raise.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s to hoping, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what frosts me about the fuel leaking from planes / helicopters? It doesn&#039;t happen. They have self sealing tanks, because, believe it or not, aerospace engineers know that leaking fuel tanks are BAD. And, since military aircraft are shot at, the designers plan for holes in different parts. Go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what frosts me about the fuel leaking from planes / helicopters? It doesn&#8217;t happen. They have self sealing tanks, because, believe it or not, aerospace engineers know that leaking fuel tanks are BAD. And, since military aircraft are shot at, the designers plan for holes in different parts. Go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: carriev</title>
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		<dc:creator>carriev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments.  Sometimes I think I missed a calling as a movie reviewer.  Mainly, I think movies are an easy way to talk about plot and story because they&#039;re so compact.  A book sprawls, and can get away with a lot of meandering.  But a movie has to be tightly written and paced.  Extraneous stuff tends to stand out.

I like a lot of what Edward Norton has done (Fight Club, anyone?).  But not everything.  Part of my problem is I actually liked the last Hulk movie from a few years ago quite a bit.  I think Eric Bana and Jennifer Connelly had more chemistry than Norton and Tyler.  

It&#039;s not that Norton was bad in this Hulk, but I think three supremely talented actors -- Norton, Roth, and Hurt -- were rather wasted by a script that didn&#039;t have much direction to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments.  Sometimes I think I missed a calling as a movie reviewer.  Mainly, I think movies are an easy way to talk about plot and story because they&#8217;re so compact.  A book sprawls, and can get away with a lot of meandering.  But a movie has to be tightly written and paced.  Extraneous stuff tends to stand out.</p>
<p>I like a lot of what Edward Norton has done (Fight Club, anyone?).  But not everything.  Part of my problem is I actually liked the last Hulk movie from a few years ago quite a bit.  I think Eric Bana and Jennifer Connelly had more chemistry than Norton and Tyler.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that Norton was bad in this Hulk, but I think three supremely talented actors &#8212; Norton, Roth, and Hurt &#8212; were rather wasted by a script that didn&#8217;t have much direction to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto what Rain said.

Haven&#039;t seen the Hulk yet...but yep, I remember the TV show.

I saw Lou Ferrigno on a DragonCon panel (with David Prowse, no less) last year. 

Both were kind, insightful and spun some wonderful tales. Yet neither did dialogue in their starring roles. Extra helpings of irony, anyone? Please and thank you.

P.S. You, too, were awesome at DC, Carrie. Took many notes from your comments on writing. And thanks for signing my copy of Midnight Hour!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto what Rain said.</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t seen the Hulk yet&#8230;but yep, I remember the TV show.</p>
<p>I saw Lou Ferrigno on a DragonCon panel (with David Prowse, no less) last year. </p>
<p>Both were kind, insightful and spun some wonderful tales. Yet neither did dialogue in their starring roles. Extra helpings of irony, anyone? Please and thank you.</p>
<p>P.S. You, too, were awesome at DC, Carrie. Took many notes from your comments on writing. And thanks for signing my copy of Midnight Hour!</p>
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		<title>By: Amie Stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amie Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*sigh* I am a HUGE Edward Norton fan and was really looking forward to this :(

That said, I really liked the new Indy movie so who knows. Maybe I can watch and ignore the weak plotlines.

Ooooo Ooooooooo Ooooooooo I picked up the last two Kitty books today--but no reading until I finish my WIP :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*sigh* I am a HUGE Edward Norton fan and was really looking forward to this <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>That said, I really liked the new Indy movie so who knows. Maybe I can watch and ignore the weak plotlines.</p>
<p>Ooooo Ooooooooo Ooooooooo I picked up the last two Kitty books today&#8211;but no reading until I finish my WIP <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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